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Group: alt.discuss.clubs.public.webtv.technical.ultrax Date: Sun, Aug 27, 2000, 11:17pm (EDT-3) From: grimio@webtv.net (grimio@g.webtv.net) SSID Pattern Surfacing! I think this may be going somewhere even thought I only have 2 samples. The &code &wtv-ssn-dash; puts the ssid into four groups of four so it looks like.... xxxx - xxxx - xxxx - xxxx What if the ssid of box's aren't one large digit, but a series of smaller groups of digits (specifically 4) that specify box type, model, manufacture date, manufacturer, the one for the login, who knows. Both my WebTV's are Philips Magnavox's. 8183 - 9408 - 10b0 - 0259 (old Classic) 8136 - de10 - 10b0 - 0xxx (old Plus) The third group, 10b0, that may represent that the box is a Philips. The other three groups may like I said, represent box type, etc. I'd appreciate some help. If any of your numbers are the same, please post which group and what kind of box you have, model and all. If you have an old (or new) Philips and group 3 is the same, I think it's safe to say that I might be going some where with this. I'd also appreciate it if you just posted your ssid and xxx'd out just 3 digits of it, in your post include box manufacturer, type (old Plus, sprout, etc.). Also, some boxes include the date of manufacture, if you find that somewhere on the box (sticker on back of old Plus, imprinted on panel inside old Classic) please post that too. I would say that the ssid represents, date of manufacture, manufacturer, box model, and a unique box identification (aka login). If one group contains a unique identification, that's 10,000 boxes in one 4-digit group with regular numbers, not counting how much it could be if hex was in there. I'm not trying to harvest ssid's either, why do you think I said x out part of it. Shawn
Group: alt.discuss.clubs.public.webtv.technical.ultrax Date: Mon, Aug 28, 2000, 6:34am (EDT-3) From: Nucking-Fut@webtv.net (Nucking Futz) Re: SSID Pattern Surfacing! 10b0 for me also, Philips (New Plus) Checkz had come up with some pretty interesting info on the whole ssid construction. I'm not sure if he is back on webtv yet but he should be soon. We'll have to get ahold of him and see what he came up with. I should have taken notes when he told me of his findings.
Group: alt.discuss.clubs.public.webtv.technical.ultrax Date: Mon, Aug 28, 2000, 7:32am (EDT-3) From: MjrWeller@webtv.net (MjrWeller) Re: SSID Pattern Surfacing! xxxx - xxxx - 00b0 - xxxx New Sony Classic
Group: alt.discuss.clubs.public.webtv.technical.ultrax Date: Mon, Aug 28, 2000, 11:04am (EDT-3) From: locc211@webtv.net (~£øçç~) Re: SSID Pattern Surfacing! xxxx-5a0d-10b0-xxxx PM new classic
Group: alt.discuss.clubs.public.webtv.technical.ultrax Date: Mon, Aug 28, 2000, 11:14am (EDT-3) From: ulTRAX@webtv.net Re: SSID Pattern Surfacing! Nucking Futz wrote: "Checkz had come up with some pretty interesting info on the whole ssid construction. I'm not sure if he is back on webtv yet but he should be soon. We'll have to get ahold of him and see what he came up with. I should have taken notes when he told me of his findings." I thought I had that info as well. Maybe it's in storage.
Group: alt.discuss.clubs.public.webtv.technical.ultrax Date: Mon, Aug 28, 2000 From: darkmatter@webtv.net (ÐÅRKMņ†ÉR) Re: SSID Pattern Surfacing! found itFrom: chezck@webtv.net ( Çhézçk €€€€€) Date: Sun, Jun 25, 2000, 3:04pm To: uLTRAX@webtv.net Subject: SSIDs Sup ultrax well this mail is to give you some information about SSIDs i will show you only what i know maybe there is more about it 81 the first part of the ssid it will never change (i think) well as far i know it never change i call it a box number because computer ssids does not have 81 the next 4 digits change everytime seems like user codes 81xxxx the next code determine the kind of box sometime it doesn't work 1 for classic 0 for pluses 81xxxx0 a plus webtv the next code is a user code too, ever change 81xxxx0x i still say is a plus webtv the next one determine the make of the webtv 0 is a sony 1 is a Phiiphs Maxnavox 7 i don't know about it yet 8 is a Dish Player 81xxxx0x0 is a sony plus webtv the following 5 codes are the same in almost all webtv (i said almost because i have not seen all the codes) the codes are 0b002 81xxxx0x00b002 the last 2 codes are again user codes at the end i finish with a ssid like this 81xxxx0x00b002xx a fakee ssid will be like this 81ad720a00b002ad and is a sony plus well another way to view the ssid is as a hex way dividing every single code in 2 for example 81 xx xx xx x0 b0 02 xx as the example ssid i gave 81 is a webtv box ad user code 72 user code 0a kind of webtv 00 make of webtv b0 ?? 02 ?? ad user code well i hope this helps with something about ssid mail me about anything strange about ssids in here wait for your answer
Group: alt.discuss.clubs.public.webtv.technical.ultrax Date: Mon, Aug 28, 2000, 10:23pm (EDT-3) From: Scorppio@webtv.net (< ~»{ >) Re: SSID Pattern Surfacing! Grim, Before I post mine, I need to chance things a little more. Reason is, my ssid's match up with yours alarmingly well. Combined with Checkz repost …
Group: alt.discuss.clubs.public.webtv.technical.ultrax Date: Fri, Sep 1, 2000, 11:51am (EDT-3) From: Prank___Rizzo@webtv.net Re: SSID Pattern Surfacing! Me and chezck discussed this briefly awhile back. I didnt pursue all of his theory in detail,but I know when I gave him the 7th character from my ssid,his theory proved wrong on box-type matchup. Could have been an isolated case,none-the-less,short of 100%. Then again,that may have been during his intitial stages of experimentation. One thing you can be SURE of...ALL WebTV units ssid will start with "81",and the 10th through 14th characters will ALWAYS be "0b002". Thats cut and dry. Now the 3rd,4th,5th,6th and 8th characters can be either hexidecimal(a-f) OR a digit(0-9). The seventh character is always either a 1 or 0. The ninth character is always a digit. The 15th and 16th characters can be either hex OR digits.
Group: alt.discuss.clubs.public.webtv.technical.ultrax Date: Tue, Sep 5, 2000, 8:49am (EDT-3) From: Chezck@webtv.net (C:\>ChezcK) Re: SSID Pattern Surfacing! Hello this is what i found 81 xx xx xx x0 b0 02 xx when i separate the codes in 2 and not in 4 like &wtv-ssid-blah; i found that 1, 2,10, 11, 12, 13 and 14 are the same but not in all boxes because there are some webtvs that start with 01 now what i think the same codes are only the 2, and 10 to 14 8 means is a webtv 0 i don't remeber what is it well i call the user codes to 3,4,5,6,8,15 and 16 also i am trying to figure the manufacture date of each webtv if it have ssomething to do with the users codes as the letters a to f still getting that information tell you when i finito the numbers for make of webtvs are the 9th code 0 is a sony 1 is a Phiiphs Maxnavox 7 i don't know about it yet 8 is a Dish Player im just running into a store to check the codes for mitsubishis and samsungs boxes also what is going to be the ssid for the mercury wel i think thats all i can say anyone with tosed boxes??? please send me the ssid and manufacture dates also the serial number thanks all
Group: alt.discuss.clubs.public.webtv.technical.ultrax Date: Tue, Sep 5, 2000, 8:51am (EDT-3) From: Chezck@webtv.net (C:\>ChezcK) Re: SSID Pattern Surfacing! Prank___Rizzo i wasn't so sure about the 7th digit on the kind of webtv ( plus or classic) but in 75% of the cases it match or unlesss u have a renew box or somehing that have to do with it